That is awesome. Congratulations! Iâd like to know more about these products. Could you please post the links?
so quickly without Meteor.
Can you tell me more about your stack? âMeteorâ isnât âjust Meteorâ anymore. What other meteor packges or node modules are you using? View layer, database, meteor methods / subscriptions or graphql?
How do you deal with traffic / scaling?
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I didnât want to make this post to promote my product. Anyway, itâs lempod.com lempod.com and lemtalk.com
As I said, itâs pretty Meteor old school, mongodb, ddp (pub/sub/call), blaze.
No graphql, no apollo, no react, no angular, no import.
I really loved (and still love) the original vision of Meteor and never moved to the new Meteor spirit.
Here is the meteor list for lemlist.com our main project:
accounts-base 1.6.0 A user account system
accounts-google 1.3.3 Login service for Google accounts
accounts-oauth 1.2.0 Common code for OAuth-based login services
accounts-password 1.6.0 Password support for accounts
accounts-ui 1.3.1 Simple templates to add login widgets to an app
andruschka:jquery-ui-sortable 1.11.2 Sortable is a jQuery UI behaviour for interactively drag-reordering table rows.
blaze-html-templates 1.1.2 Compile HTML templates into reactive UI with Meteor Blaze
bozhao:link-accounts 2.1.1 Meteor external service link system
browser-policy 1.1.0 Configure security policies enforced by the browser
check 1.3.1 Check whether a value matches a pattern
dburles:mongo-collection-instances 0.3.5 Access your Mongo instances
ecmascript 0.14.3 Compiler plugin that supports ES2015+ in all .js files
es5-shim 4.8.0 Shims and polyfills to improve ECMAScript 5 support
facts-base 1.0.1 Publish internal app statistics
facts-ui 1.0.0 Display internal app statistics
fourseven:scss 4.12.0 Style with attitude. Sass and SCSS support for Meteor.js.
google-config-ui 1.0.1 Blaze configuration templates for Google OAuth.
http 1.4.2 Make HTTP calls to remote servers
illusionfield:blaze-layout 2.3.1 Layout Manager for Blaze (works well with FlowRouter)
jparker:crypto-aes 0.1.0 AES Package for CryptoJS, standard secure algorithms
jparker:crypto-md5 0.1.1 MD5 algorithm for CryptoJS, standard secure algorithms
kadira:flow-router 2.12.1 Carefully Designed Client Side Router for Meteor
lempire 0.0.19+ boilerplate for lempire projects
meteor-base 1.4.0 Packages that every Meteor app needs
meteorhacks:picker 1.0.3 Server Side Router for Meteor
meteortesting:mocha 2.0.0 Run Meteor package or app tests with Mocha
mikowals:batch-insert 1.1.9* Insert multiple documents to mongo collection with one db call.
mobile-experience 1.1.0 Packages for a great mobile user experience
momentjs:moment 2.24.0* Moment.js (official): parse, validate, manipulate, and display dates - official Meteor packaging
mongo 1.10.0 Adaptor for using MongoDB and Minimongo over DDP
oauth 1.3.0 Common code for OAuth-based services
oauth2 1.3.0 Common code for OAuth2-based login services
ostrio:base64 2.0.2* Efficient isomorphic Base64 implementation, with support of WebWorkers, Native code and Unicode
ostrio:files 1.14.1* Upload files to Meteor application, with 3rd party storage support: AWS:S3, GridFS and other
random 1.2.0 Random number generator and utilities
reactive-var 1.0.11 Reactive variable
service-configuration 1.0.11 Manage the configuration for third-party services
session 1.2.0 Session variable
shell-server 0.5.0 Server-side component of the `meteor shell` command.
standard-minifier-css 1.6.0 Standard css minifier used with Meteor apps by default.
tracker 1.2.0 Dependency tracker to allow reactive callbacks
underscore 1.0.10 Collection of small helpers: _.map, _.each, ...
underscorestring:underscore.string 3.3.4 underscore.string (official): String manipulation extensions for Underscore.js javascript library.
zodern:hide-production-sourcemaps 1.1.0 Hide sourcemaps in production
zodern:standard-minifier-js 4.0.0-beta.2* Javascript minifier that creates production sourcemap
and the npm package.json:
"@babel/runtime": "7.8.4",
"@microsoft/microsoft-graph-client": "^2.0.0",
"@okgrow/auto-analytics": "2.0.0",
"adal-node": "^0.2.1",
"aircall-everywhere": "1.5.0",
"bcrypt": "3.0.6",
"body-parser": "1.19.0",
"chart.js": "^2.9.3",
"color-scheme-change": "1.0.1",
"customerio-node": "0.6.0",
"emailjs-imap-client": "3.0.7",
"fabric": "3.0.0",
"fibers": "4.0.1",
"file-type": "12.4.0",
"fontfaceobserver": "2.1.0",
"google-libphonenumber": "3.2.6",
"googleapis": "40.0.0",
"html-to-text": "5.1.1",
"hubspot": "2.3.5",
"isomorphic-fetch": "^2.2.1",
"jquery-ui-sortable": "^1.0.0",
"jsforce": "1.9.3",
"jwt-decode": "^2.2.0",
"liquidjs": "8.2.3",
"luxon": "1.15.0",
"mailparser": "2.7.1",
"meteor-node-stubs": "0.4.1",
"mongodb": "3.2.7",
"multer": "1.4.1",
"node-cron": "2.0.3",
"node-dogstatsd": "0.0.7",
"nodemailer": "6.2.1",
"octobat-npm": "2.0.1",
"papaparse": "5.0.0",
"perfect-scrollbar": "1.4.0",
"pixi.js": "5.0.3",
"puppeteer": "2.0.0",
"read-chunk": "3.2.0",
"request": "2.88.0",
"stripe": "7.5.2",
"timezones.json": "1.5.0",
"txtgen": "2.2.2",
"underscore": "1.9.1",
"tough-cookie": "^3.0.1"
Nothing fancy as you can see 
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Nothing fancy except the bravery to ignore the tech hype and FUD while building products that sell to satisfied customers using tech that gets the job done.
Congrats on your products 
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LevelUpTutorials has been profitable and built on Meteor for a long time now.
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Interesting I did not know that this package exists, but cannot find any docs on it, what do you use it for ?
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So you are still on Meteor 1.6.0 and feel happy? No feeling of âsomething is missingâ?
illustreets is location intelligence software for the enterprise. At the moment we have enough revenue to pay the bills and salaries, though the plan is to obviously grow. Working with clients such as World Bank, and just last month landed our first NASDAQ-100 client. Sorry, the numbers and some client names are business sensitive details.
Built with what is being referred to as âvanillaâ Meteor (currently on 1.10.2). Pub/sub is actually essential for our user experience, so not moving away from that any time soon. The big data infrastructure to which Meteor connects relies on heavyweights such as PostgreSQL + PostGIS. However, we still prefer MongoDB for user and real-time data.
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This was a fun story I remember reading about a Meteor app building journey too:
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What a great story! Also, gotta admire the guyâs business sense.
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Qualia!
Hereâs our Series C announcement from last year:
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@alawi: thank you 
@veered and @stolinski: donât want to share numbers?
@sabativi: itâs not well documented indeed. You can find a few info at the bottom of this page. It basically display some real time stats about oplog/pub/sub performance. Example:
@Volodymyr: We use the latest Meteor 1.10.2. We just donât use all the ânewâ things. I just feel productive and working way faster than everybody else ^^.
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The success doesnât really lie in the framework, it lies in the developers AND the business team, in how it got marketed. Does Meteor old-school help you code faster than new-school with GraphQL & React ? My answer would be no. It really doesnât. I find that typescript and type safety in general lets you code much faster and error-free and I found React (with hooks) to be much easier to work with than Blaze templates from so many perspectives.
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We have online school for kids(8-16yo) on Meteor. It is one of the largest online school in Russian.
I agree with @diaconutheodor The good team + proper instruments are the main part of projectâs success.
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I agree but I suppose itâs nice to show positive examples of Meteor in use. Although I would be curious to also hear about use cases where using Meteor prevented the business from being successful.
Speaking from personal experience, Iâve had to deal with my fair share of server issues over the years and I could see how having your site go down unexpectedly from a CPU spike could hurt your profits⌠But thatâs probably a topic best left for another thread.
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@sacha you could name your thread âMeteor failures and workaroundsâ, it would be useful. And everyone would be able to suggest whether the issue could be prevented or not. And whether it was solved in the next versions of Meteor/or could be solved in the future.
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Couldnât agree more. HoweverâŚ
I would argue that the stability of the framework and backwards compatibility does have a lot to do with it, particularly if your team is small. Imagine having to rework your product(s) to a considerable extent, while your are still growing, because the newest version is incompatible with your code base. Meanwhile, you have to put aside features which have been at the top of your clientsâ wish list.
The answer to this question makes more economic sense for a software house, whose entire business model is quite different from that of a SaaS. In that case, I think you are right, but in this thread I think the discussion is revolving around the SaaS model
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I agree with this, I think if youâve a SaaS idea with clear scope then Meteor, DDP, Blaze, and Galaxy are probably still the fastest and the most economical and accessible way to get the idea out to the market (without outsourcing your server or database). I use React but one only becomes productive when they start to master the ecosystem that comes with it (at least that was my experienceâŚ).
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I canât disclose our revenue, but we have an example: www.shipafreight.com
We provide instant freight quotes from anywhere to anywhere in the world, and offer an online portal for tracking your shipments, provide customs guidance and more.
The intro site is built using Gatsby and the app (after clicking âLogin / Registerâ) is made with Meteor, though until just a few weeks ago everything was built using Meteor.
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