Meteor Windows installer: Here it is


#1

Struggles to install Meteor with chocolatey ? Want the good old installer to install Meteor on Windows and manage it like any other program?

Where is it ? you may ask. Here it is: the old Meteor installer

MDG folks removed it because it didn’t work perfectly. Well it works better for me !

Why, for local development sake, would I need to install chocolatey only to get Meteor ? Do I need chocolatey to install node? to install git? NO

Chocolatey is not a windows standard way to install a program.
It comes with a lot of overhead (especially because it can mess up the PATH env variable and require to use the command line tool on windows).
If your path is too long with path of chocolatey + meteor + existing path, you’re onboard for a lot of troubles.

I would advise that it is wiser to provide the installer back on Meteor website. We need a direct link.

Please people join me if you believe it should be as easy as to install a program to get started on Meteor for Windows users.


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#2

As long as chocolatey works at all I’d rather the development team concentrate on improving Meteor itself. And when you say chocolatey is heavy on memory usage, do you just mean when Meteor is downloading and installing? Or does it register a daemon/service that runs and takes up a lot of memory?


#4

If you’re trying to solicit help you’re not going about it in a very good way. You didn’t even answer my questions about the increase in memory usage you’re experiencing.


#5

The old installer did not work perfectly. That’s exactly why it was replaced with a chocolatey script.

I can’t find the issue/pull request where it was discussed but the installer was a black box which frequently had errors and had no method of alerting users that there was an issue, it would just sit pending for hours


#6

Sorry for having been offensive / pissed off by your comment yesterday.

Well this is not a lot of work: the installer already exists. I just published it on google drive. How much does it cost to upload it on the official Meteor website? Even if it is not maintained it still works so it should be there as an alternative (even if I repeat myself: I believe this should be the first way for a local dev windows user.

Can community maintain the installer ? I hope so.

I speak about around 100Mo of disk space for choco alone.

The only people constrained to install chocolatey are the new comers who will never know about the installer, not the top devs like you (by the way, do you even run on Windows? because if you’re on a Mac or Linux why do you care so much?)


#7

As Windows user (so much so that I recently asked if anyone here is doing Meteor development using Edge as their first browser to test with). I’m tempted to agree with your point - yet, I don’t.

Chocolatey is a great package manager, something I assume every technically minded windows user embraces. Even on the most constrained devices, 100Mb disk space are not a real issue.

What I do believe though is a disjoint between documentation and users targeted. The Meteor documentation pretty much just says ‘install chocolatey’ and the chocolatey documentation assumes users know some basic tasks such as running a console as an administrator without instructions how to do so.

Meteor is a great framework for beginners and when making it a requirement to use choco, a full installation manual - which would only take some 20 or so paragraphs would be helpful for beginners, who had no chocolatey exposure.


#8

Submit a PR to the Meteor Guide :slight_smile:


#9

Or you could just use the installer.

What’s wrong with providing the newbie option as an official one ?

Meteor used to be so easy to get started. I really dislike the shift of focus


#10

The problem with providing an official installer is that the official installer was buggy and generated endless issue reports that were hard or impossible to debug.

At least chocolatey gives you some logs so you can start attempting to debug it


#11

I thought the new installation method was hard (initially) but I find meteor works better now. Although, the windows installer had very little issues for me. Overall the new method of installation works well and I can just copy my app to fedora with very little re-configurations.


#12

I struggled one night already to make chocolatey work without success. Because I play with my PATH variable endlessly and I didn’t know what’s wrong.

I ended with the old installer and it worked like a charm.

That’s why I highly encourage Meteor folks to keep the installer at least as a secondary option


#13

You shouldn’t have to touch your PATH, that all happens automatically


#14

Spending one night to make Chocolatey working… While the installation only requires/required 1 or 2 commands in a console, and eventually a reboot of the computer… :expressionless:


#15

This whole thread makes me grateful that I don’t have to use Windows :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:


#16

And I’m grateful that I don’t have to use a *nix-System. So there.

I mean, I once delved into the madness that is the installation of Mapnik on a Debian system. Arcane commands upon arcane commands, downloading Cthulu-like XML configuration files which contain SQL-commands!

I’m glad I was able to use the default configuration because when I glimpsed into those files, the abyss stared back…


#17

Mee too I am struggling in win installing, as I documented in another recent topic. Not shure I’ll get it right. so I am working on giving up on win install. I think it is just a bunch of trouble and time consuming. So, I will explore installing a Docker virtual machine on my windows.

The reason of using my win machine is because it already has 3 screens that I would need to multiplex with another machine that does not have extra video cards.if I would use another machine that is Linux.

I need to investigate what is needed (command line instructions) for installing it and for when I install NPM or Git clones.

I will then be able to open many code files at once for better logic follow up while experimenting.

Any help welcome on how to do basic maintenance operations on dockers for:

  • Meteor install

  • Meteor update

  • Create a project

  • Install an NPM module

  • Install a Git hub cloned project

  • etc.

  • Experience Feedbacks

Thanks


#18

For some reason I tried to open it with Chrome and it doesn’t work anymore. If such the case you can open it with Brave Browser…


#19

The only reason I was trying to dev Meteor on a win machine was the multiscreen. I got a jungle forest of problems with my last attempts to install Meteor on Windows. Now my solution is: a Linux CPU on a used Dell Optiplex 7010 that has 3 video connectors onboard: vga+DP+DP, so, I suppose only one video driver or 3 same drivers from Linux POV.