📡 TRANSMISSION #9: Testing Deep-Dive with Tom Coleman

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:point_right: Howdy Meteor Forum peeps, It is time to plan show #9! What perked your interest this week(s) in Meteor? Is there a MDG team member you want to learn more about? Have an idea how to improve the show? Help us drive this party bus :minibus:

I really need your help to pick some great topics so we can keep the momentum high after our interview with Geoff.

Update

Show #8 has been the pinnacle so far for Transmission and the numbers reflect it too. Big thanks to @gschmidt and @sashko for making it amazing. If you have not heard our talk with Meteor’s CEO Geoff Schmidt then make sure to check it out today https://transmission.simplecast.fm/

Keep an eye out for the videos being released soon. We broke each video up into separate sections and are curious of what you think? https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTUf4ytkmI8Q7cbf4J6aQEYun5g8fxt9B

Thank you all for your support and feedback!!

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TRANSMISSION is a weekly podcast/vlog covering the most important topics to come out of the Meteor Forums. Each week I need your help to pick the most relevant forum posts for @sashko and I to discuss in deeper detail.

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How does a 10% churn in staff effect MDG?

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I would like to see a show focused around testing and how it is likely to change/evolve with Meteor 1.3

It would be great to maybe get @sam or others from Xolvio on the show as well.

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I would also be interested in learning more about creating packages for Meteor 1.3+ in the npm eco-system,

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Totally! I imagine a show similar in nature as the one we did for Apollo. @sashko who would be the best team member to talk about testing in 1.3?

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How about Rahul or Tom to discuss the work of SpaceJam and the mocha web driver that has made it in?

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Yes @sashko would definitely be great to hear from. But I’m personally also interested in perspectives from non-MDG folks, esp major community contributors eg Kadira/Xolvio, etc.

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Please, no. There’s Meteor Club Podcasts, Crater Podcasts, Meteor Interviews, Discover Meteor Podcasts, and plenty other venues for hearing from those voices.

Keep it focused on architectural discussion and details from actual MDG contributors. We want to know what’s going on at MDG, not what’s happening at Kadira, Xolvio, etc.

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I’ve definitely been interested in having the podcast become a venue for direct conversations between MDG and the community. So far @benstr has been great at asking questions and representing community concerns, but perhaps adding another community voice every once in a while would help? The same way that having other people from MDG and not just myself makes the conversation much more interesting.

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@tmeasday is the main person on testing right now - he’s building the example app tests, writing the testing guide for 1.3, and making sure the build tool has the right features for the release. Tom, would you be interested in talking about this?

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For testing, who from the community would you have in mind?

I agree with @awatson1978 other podcasts are good for opinions and community insight. I want this podcast to keep its purpose unique form the others. Adding other co-hosts from the community would be great! I just want to make sure it stays focused on MDG’s POV and architectural details.

I know a few folks have reached out to me about joining in and I am all for it as long as we keep it about what MDG is doing.

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For starters: Ronen, who’s practicalmeteor:mocha seems to have made it into the guide and who developed SpaceJam; or Martin, who has Verification and Validation experience with NASA, and wrote the excellent Continuous Deployment tutorial.

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I, um. What? Surely there are not already two Rahuls of significance in the Meteor community. :wink:

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Well, looking through the guide, and it appears that practicalmeteor:mocha has a mention. There’s also been mention of SpaceJam in some of the CI discussion…

Maybe Tom is the better person to weigh in; but you’re the person who has hacked on the tinytest driver about as much as anybody, and know what’s involved in replacing/upgrading it. And about the only person to have published an alternative --driver-package. (that I know of anyhow)

Reasons. :wink:

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Are you confusing me with Ronen Babayoff (https://github.com/rbabayoff), the creator of practicalmeteor:mocha?

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Given testing is being debated and frustrated over in the meteor community for a long time
And there are multiple predominant approaches
And I was working on the wonderful xolvio.io work from @sam / @Sanjo
And following @tmeasday and awatson1978
Then possibly we should possibly have say three shows covering each of those three, giving meteor users approach to choose from based on their situation.

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Ah, I think I am! My bad! I was on the road and texting from my phone. Edited!

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Three shows is a bit much for one topic IMO, but we could have one show where we have different people call in!

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I’d like to hear about the history of DDP.

Things like : How many iterations did it go through? Is it inspired by some other protocol? Has it been used in any non-meteor applications ? Has it been in Meteor from the very beginning ? Who originally designed it ? In a recent release ( I think ), the messages are automatically compressed before they are sent, how does that work ?

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Yeah I’d be happy to talk about the testing stuff.

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